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A guide: finding the perfect high stat breeding partners

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I have noticed many returning members coming back to foopets who use to breed as well as some members looking into breeding high stats. Many have been asking what is considered a good pair. I have created this thread to help those wanting to start out breeding and give an insight into what I think about when pairing my breeders. Most of this information can also be utilised for low stat breeders.

When choosing a compatible pair it is important to choose a pair that have complimentary stats. If one breeder is low in one stat, the partner should be high in the stat the other is low in. As an example, I have chosen one of my breeding pairs, Moonlight and Winston.

I have highlighted the stats that each pair is high in, as you can see Moonlight is high in bravery and endurance compared to Winston who is high in intelligence, obedience and agility. If they are both high in one stat then that is an added bonus

If you add the highest stat for each personality together you can get the highest possible puppy (or kitten) also known as HPP (HPK for cats). Looking at the example of Moonlight and Winston again, I would take the bravery (143) and endurance (139) totals from Moonlight and the intelligence (143), obedience (163) and agility (137) for Winston. Add all 5 of these numbers (143 + 139 + 143 + 163 + 137) together and the HPP for this pairing is 725. This is a possible puppy of 725 out of 741 (max for the black labradors). So if a puppy was born with the exact same highest number the parents have combined, that is the stat total they could produce. In 6 years of breeding high stat labradors, I have never seen them come close to this number. However the higher the HPP the greater the chances of producing a high puppy. The closest I have gotten to producing a puppy close to the parents HPP was with Vishnu, a 696 black labrador. Her parents had a HPP of 716.

The minimum HPP you are looking for to be considered a good pairing depends on the breed of highstat you have. I only have this information for high stat labradors which I will mention in the post below. If you have a HPP you aim towards for parings in other breeds, please post below.

No matter what the HPP I will not pair a partner if they are more then 25 stat totals apart. For example, I wouldn’t breed a 632 labrador with a 660 labrador. I believe the closer they are together the greater chances of producing a high stat is. However I know this differentiates for different members, I know another labrador breeder who won’t pair anything with a stat total difference as low as 15. I have had to make one exception to this rule (for Vishnu) due to her high stat total. I base her pairings off purely by HPP.

That is all the information I can think to provide at this time. If you have any question’s don’t hesitate to ask.

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HPP for Labrador Retrievers
I personally won’t breed a labrador pair that has a HPP below 680. I ultimately seek to have a 700+ HPP for my black labradors and 690+ for my chocolate and yellow labradors. It ultimately depends on how many labradors you have as to what HPP you decide to breed at. I wouldn’t recommend breeding a labrador pair with a HPP less than 680.

HPP For Great Danes (from Hiraeth)
I don’t breed any great dane pairs unless they have a 670 HPP or above, and I usually aim for 680 as often as possible. It’s a bit difficult to get a 95%+ HPP, but breeding great danes is incredibly easy once you get the hang of it and stick to the cut off of 670 HPP.

HPP for Marley Labradors (from Hiraeth)
I try to aim for atleast 700, but for newer pairs, I’m upping that to 715+.

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Thank you for putting this into words! I always struggle to explain breeding to other people!

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No worries. I had a thread ages ago but I had mainly done it in graphic format and when tinypic disappeared so did the graphics

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I don’t breed any great dane pairs unless they have a 670 HPP or above, and I usually aim for 680 as often as possible. It’s a bit difficult to get a 95%+ HPP, but breeding great danes is incredibly easy once you get the hang of it and stick to the cut off of 670 HPP. For my MYLS, I try to aim for atleast 700, but for newer pairs, I’m upping that to 715+. It’s a bit more difficult to find the right stat lineups with marleys when it’s compared to great danes.

When it comes to stat totals, I tend to appreciate HPPs rather than the differences between those. If a pup fits well with another one and they’re thirty, or even fifty points apart, they still have a great potential and a great chance of producing high offspring, so I don’t mind the difference much.

I stick with the 680 cut off point for my CLs and BLs as well. Thanks for making this thread! I’m sure it’ll be super helpful for new breeders.

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this is very helpful! ty sm <3

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I wish I could find the old breeding guide I made, it goes into a bit more detail about how to use individual stats and stuff. This is supser simple and much easier to understand than mine though!

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Hiraeth: thanks for the info, ill update the info to include great danes
sushi: most welcome :)
Equi: yeah I too have made a couple of the years some more complex then others. I too cant find any of them. If there is anything else you think I should add please feel free to mention it.

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Even though I already know all this, thanks for posting this guide. It is very informative and well-written, and I’m sure it will be very helpful for new breeders. =)

Also, Equi, here is your old guide (I had it bookmarked, lol, it was very helpful for me when I first started breeding Red Huskies). :P

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Corrupt: thank you!
Equi: i have just read your guide and I have never thought to consider that each stat at least has one parent over 80%. Not sure how applicable it is to labradors and my pairings as I usually try to breed close to max stats as possible.

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This is very helpful information Moussee, thank you flower.

I’ve actually bred a chocolate lab that was higher than the HPP of 669

http://www.foopets.com/breeding/232930

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Wow you have too. That was pure luck, haha

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Yeah, I think it was, I have bred a higher one too, a 681 but she’s below the HPP of 701

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The closest ive gotten to a HPP I think is about 20 stats away

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That’s brillant stats though, I think Enigma was a bit of a fluke..lol

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